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xeastham 1:30 Thu Sep 25
Another view of of the Hillsborough disaster.

Just saw this on the online Sky UK news from a report by a plod
A former mounted police officer has told the Hillsborough inquests that Liverpool fans threw beer and spat on him as he tried to keep order.

David Scott, an ex-police constable, said there was a marked contrast between the behaviour of Nottingham Forest fans and supporters of the opposing team as they arrived at the Sheffield stadium.

Mr Scott told the inquests jury that he and his horse, 'Silverwood', were diverted from helping to marshal Forest fans - who he described as "happy and jovial" to the arriving supporters from Liverpool.

He said several hundred fans from Merseyside were drinking from beer cans and were late getting into the stadium for the ill-fated FA cup semi-final.

The former South Yorkshire police officer told the hearing: "The mood of the crowd was intimidating because I was trying to ask people to move.

"In return, all I was getting was beer thrown at me, and being spat upon as well by members of the crowd outside [the stadium.] They were quite intimidating and restless."

The witness said fans were walking over people who had fallen to the ground and were crawling under the belly of his horse at the Leppings Lane entrance to the stadium.

"They didn't follow any sense of order," he said.

"On several occasions I actually recollect pleading with the fans not to be pushing from behind because they were trampling their fellow supporters, but I was met with a torrent of abuse."

In a written statement, made before his evidence today, the former policeman told investigators: "Never before have I been met with such hostility and drunken abusive behaviour from football fans, who seemed, in the main, totally oblivious to any requests for calm and order."

A barrister representing some of the bereaved families, Mark George QC, suggested that the behaviour had been no different from that at other big league matches and that Mr Scott had been exaggerating.

The witness replied: "I beg to differ."

bobbymoore 1:31 Thu Sep 25
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I was never the fans fault... ever. Not even the slightest..........................................

Mr. Burns 1:43 Thu Sep 25
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No actually really another view is it?

White Pony 1:47 Thu Sep 25
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The very fact that anyone laying any blame on the fans whatsoever is always shouted down with vitriol, just goes to show how deluded Liverpool and its fans are. Those painting Liverpool fans as peace-loving victims should be made to sit down and watch the footage from Heysel.

Gavros 1:47 Thu Sep 25
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the behaviour of the scousers both at hillsborugh and elsewhere has been well documented for years. Everyone knows they were a disaster waiting to happen upon themselves with their snide tickets. If it wasnt hillsborough it'd have eventually have been elsewhere.

Eggbert Nobacon 1:49 Thu Sep 25
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just thought would check out their message boards to see how this has gone down and found this

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=240892.0


a moment of silence for Hillsborough thread where they post without saying anything!!!

Russ of the BML 1:53 Thu Sep 25
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Deep down they know the fans steaming in have to take some blame. Deep down.

Gavros 1:54 Thu Sep 25
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120 pages of it!

Marston Hammer 1:55 Thu Sep 25
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Buster 1:55 Thu Sep 25
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JFT39

Eggbert Nobacon 1:57 Thu Sep 25
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I might go on and say something and see if I get a load of "shut up you cunts" like when someone makes a noise in a minutes silence


then I could explain I was outside the thread and didn't realise




(saying that I get "shut up you cun"t fairly often here when it's not a minutes silence!)

GingerNut 2:03 Thu Sep 25
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Well done to him for daring to state what is bleeding obvious to most people, but cannot be said generally in public. The terrible disaster was a culmination of several factors ONE of which was the behaviour of some Liverpool fans.

Mad Dog 2:11 Thu Sep 25
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Never happened.

Every single person there had a ticket
Not one unit of alcohol consumed
The reason puerile were late was delays in public transport as they all left with several hours spare.

The police forced them into the middle section. At gunpoint probably

i-Ron 2:16 Thu Sep 25
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I hope Gary the scouse reads this with his cheese and onions.

If they can behave, and follow order, he might admit the rest of the land are allowed to have safe standing in grounds....

Grumpster 2:23 Thu Sep 25
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White Pony 1:47 Thu Sep 25

Are you the horse in the report, Silverwood?


Thing with stuff like this that happened 25 years ago is that all that is spoken now is basically bullshit from both sides, which doesn't change the fact that all the poor innocent bastards at the front who got there on time and sober, were crushed because of a load of cunts at the back.

All coppers now are going to exaggerate I'm sure to paint a better picture of their colleagues actions.

Blunders 8:44 Thu Sep 25
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Move on.

BulphanIron 8:58 Thu Sep 25
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I know probably less than 1% of this forum went to the cup game at Tottenham last year but what was the view of the goings on there?

Far Cough 9:05 Thu Sep 25
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I was there, what do you mean by view of what goings on?

i-Ron 9:07 Thu Sep 25
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I forgot about that Bulf!
Was hard to stand up. I was with SLH and was hard to keep space for the boy in front of Us.

Far Cough 9:11 Thu Sep 25
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We all stood up, I was with Danbury Hammer and Jack

BulphanIron 9:11 Thu Sep 25
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Geezer in front of me, probably my age was throwing up and in a panic attack, very graphic scenes Ron and not the fault of any West Ham there.

Same as the Semi against Birmingham where the old bill escort caused the crush by holding us up so we were 15 minutes late...

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